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Post by Michael on Apr 17, 2005 10:59:59 GMT
Hi All This morning I recieved an invite from a local group of Reiki people to attend a Reiki share. Unfortunately the event is at a time when I'm only available online...office-hours that is. Anyway, since I know it is sometimes a tricky issue, I replied and stated my interest and mention in a straightforward manner, as always, how I have recieved my Reiki and the knowledge, for free, onloine and by distance. I was replied that the group would be debating the issue and that it was know that some people in the group had serious doubts about these things. I am really looking forward to the answer to that. Personally, I can live without sharing with this local group. What is more interesting a the situation when someone would turn me down. With a foundation of the Usui principles or an experience in any spiritual practice - how would someone in his/her internal reasoning be functioning? This is not an isolated event and it makes me doubt that turning point in spiritual awareness on a global scale that we so often talk and read about... right now, I can't really see that it is imminent... questions, questions, questions  love to all Michael |
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Post by stef on Apr 17, 2005 13:28:23 GMT
HI Michael I've heard of people being discriminated against for this before and in my opinion it is a pointless discussion on their part. I think it is just the people that charge over inflated fees for attunements getting worried that they are going to loose a source of income as more people find out that you do not have to pay for this gift. I'm not against people making money from reiki, if that's what they want, but it doesn't mean that they're a better Master just because they have charged money, and it doesn't make the student better because they have paid. You know as well as I that this form of attunement works but people will continue to discredit it if they believe it is going to affect them. I live on a tight budget and there is no way I could afford £100+ for each attunement, does that mean that I'm not allowed to use reiki. If I paid for an attunement and then decided I couldn't be bothered to practise and improve myself and help others does that still mean I'm better than someone who got a free online attunement and practises reiki and the principles of reiki daily. The desire to help people comes from the heart, money should not be an issue. Why can't we all just get along and respect each other regardless of how people receive reiki. Just my views love stef  ps if they don't accept you, just think of all the places you can stick their invite |
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Post by Mickuk on Apr 17, 2005 23:26:16 GMT
Hi Michael, This is a problem that many people find when joining local groups, these people are very sad and should know better. They see you as a threat, if you give free attunements and it spreads their fear is competion for free, I know which i would go for  they have nothing to fear there are far to many sick, sad, no hope, people with long term health issues to go round, it would be nice to know that there was not enough people who needed reiki healing or attunements, so it is their loss if they reject you, I wonder if our healing powers would be stronger with more miracles if all us reiki peeps were united ? Love, Mick |
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Post by stef on Apr 19, 2005 14:50:36 GMT
Hi Michael I found this last night. I thought it might help your group while they are discussing your 'credentials' Phyllis Furumoto, Hawayo Takata's granddaughter, was named Grand Master by the Reiki Alliance. She states that "as Grand Master, she has no additional Reiki power, no additional symbols, attunements, techniques, and no authority over other Reiki practitioners". Furthermore: So often it seems that many Reiki Masters and practitioners are overly sensitive to things like lineage, certificates and membership in the 'right' organisation. The important thing is: Do you know within yourself that you are connected to Reiki. If you do, then nothing else matters. love stef |
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Post by chynacariba on Apr 27, 2005 11:16:29 GMT
Hi All This morning I recieved an invite from a local group of Reiki people to attend a Reiki share. Unfortunately the event is at a time when I'm only available online...office-hours that is. Anyway, since I know it is sometimes a tricky issue, I replied and stated my interest and mention in a straightforward manner, as always, how I have recieved my Reiki and the knowledge, for free, onloine and by distance. I was replied that the group would be debating the issue and that it was know that some people in the group had serious doubts about these things. I am really looking forward to the answer to that. Personally, I can live without sharing with this local group. What is more interesting a the situation when someone would turn me down. With a foundation of the Usui principles or an experience in any spiritual practice - how would someone in his/her internal reasoning be functioning? This is not an isolated event and it makes me doubt that turning point in spiritual awareness on a global scale that we so often talk and read about... right now, I can't really see that it is imminent... questions, questions, questions love to all Michael
I was disgusted by this.
Stuff those egotistical gits.
You can send away all you like in my yahoo group I,ll put your name in files.
*fume*
blessings cc xx |
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Post by johan on Apr 27, 2005 14:34:07 GMT
Hee Michael, A familiar question. I once had the same with a group. If a group is not ready for it yet, well it is their choice. But they should be happy that due to distance attunement the total vibration of the world is increasing faster and faster. If you want to be in the group, take a member and offer him/her a hands-on session and let him/her judge That will confince them! If you don't mind, let them go, no need for judgement. It just has to be that way. (yes I am learning ) Come to Holland for a great hands-on session with my group! Love, Johan |
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Post by stef on May 4, 2005 10:34:26 GMT
Hi Michael I'm off to my first group on Friday night ;D Looking forward to it but very nervous as I've not had much hands on experience. Never even had a hands on treatment myself, so I'm looking forward to that ;D ;D The person running the group I'm going to does distance attunements, some free, some he charges for. I've spoken to him on the phone and he seems really nice and has assured me that no one there will judge me for my lack of experience. And as I don't have my own transport - the car isn't insured as my last car was stolen so the insurance companies all think I'm high risk  - he's even arranged for someone to give me a lift ;D ;D ;D How good is that. I'll let you know how it went on Saturday. love stef |
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Post by efishy on Jul 6, 2006 19:27:49 GMT
Well, this is something that I thought about for many years. To charge or not to charge. Well, I was told to charge, but inside, I FELT horrible about that. So to have peace with myself, I never do charge, nor will I ever. I have a job that I bring home a pay check. I also know that some people feel that if you don't pay for it, then, its not worth anything. They think that you have to give up something to get something.. well.. good for them...I am pretty sure that anything I have in this physical world means nothing when everything is said and done. All I know, is that if someone desires to know and learn Reiki, or any other system of healing that I know, I will teach it. I also know that people will say that if you go to get a massage, you would have to pay for it, if you go to a chriopracter, you will pay for it. So.. ok.. pay for it. Its my personal feeling, and what I will do personally. Intent is everything, its where it all starts...the thought....
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Post by ruth on Jul 7, 2006 17:05:29 GMT
I felt for you on this one Michael, I had someone ask me about my papers and I don't have any. I now feel I don't need them. Show one person in the group and the rest will follow you. It just takes one for them to share their experience with the others. Like you have told us in many other replys: trust & beleive in yourself. You have nothing to prove. If they want statistics from a scientific stand point, there was a great article on one of the other postings that had it on there. I have it saved somewhere in my file if you need it for ammo! Just email me and I'll link you to it |
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Post by anand on Jul 7, 2006 19:28:01 GMT
Well the debate goes on. No problem as long as there are human beings, debate will continue. if not money then it will be free will, or it will be with or without symbols, or it will be whether it is religious / spiritual / universal , or whether it is a shde lighter/ darker, or weaker / stronger, or system A is better than B etc. etc. I only request Reiki to flow and heal us. imagine, if this kind of debate was on between different REIKIs themselves. God save the universe.
have I rambled on!
love anand
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they have nothing to fear there are far to many sick, sad, no hope, people with long term health issues to go round, it would be nice to know that there was not enough people who needed reiki healing or attunements, so it is their loss if they reject you, I wonder if our healing powers would be stronger with more miracles if all us reiki peeps were united ? 
- he's even arranged for someone to give me a lift ;D ;D ;D How good is that.
