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Post by stef on Jul 24, 2006 9:47:04 GMT
Hi All This is an extract from a talk by William Rand about why people should charge money for Reiki......The complete article is here: video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1f4d318b3029f63cf8b1d21830381f9f.a3b403bc5fe03dfd44ab13e08e638ef1&fr=yvmtf "Just because someone's doing it for free doesn't mean that they are more spiritual, sometimes when people do treatments for free, unconsciously or even consciously they're doing it to have power over the people they're giving treatments to, so they give a treatment to someone and it's like you owe that person for something......... Or you do treatments for free because you feel inadequate spiritually and hopefully by doing them for free you're doing something that appears to be more spiritual"I would love to read other people's views on this  Personally I give Reiki for free because I live on a very tight budget, so when I needed some help I couldn't afford to go to someone who charged money for treatments and attunements. I was lucky enough to find a wonderful person who was willing to help me free of charge. So I am happy to do the same for others, because I feel that Reiki shouldn't just be for the elite that can afford to pay for it......I don't feel that my Reiki Master has power over me, or that I owe him anything........and I don't feel that I have power over anyone that I have helped out, or that they owe me anything.........And I certainly don't feel that I am inadequate spiritually and that being here and doing what I do will make me appear more spiritual. I am happy to give Reiki for free because I believe that Reiki is love.......and you can't put a price on love And it should be available for everyone.......not just the wealthy love stef  |
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Post by Michael on Jul 24, 2006 22:12:08 GMT
Rand has done a lot of good, specially in the issue of pricing I believe... didn't he take part in the "lower the fee to only $600 instead of the initial $10.000" ... anyway the only reason I can see (quite spontaneous) is that if you feel that you in some way own the energy, there might be a question of payment, owing someone for a service. the energy that is Reiki is everywhere and that is a problem for those who promote ideas that an exchange of money is needed... it's like charging for air or sunlight... or rain the business idea in itself depends on customers being ignorant of that fact... or kept in fear  I like Rand but I don't always agree ;D love Michael |
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Post by stef on Jul 24, 2006 22:27:35 GMT
Hi Michael I like him too..........most of the time he's done a lot to 'bring Reiki to the masses'......but then he makes statements like that, that risk putting it back years again  Mikao Usui didn't charge money for Reiki treatments or attunements.........was he inadequate spiritually? or did he do it to have power over people? The energy exchange belief was introduced after Usui's death......many people seem to have forgotten this, or maybe it's not part of their teaching.... love stef |
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Post by anand on Jul 25, 2006 5:55:15 GMT
I think its a FREE world, and one is entitled to give what he wants either free or charge it, provided he gets customers for the same. There are people who are willing to pay thru money and there are people, who can not afford or do not agree to payment in cash. So both type of customers are available, let Rand and his followers have their views and let us have our views.
Peace and love to all, in any case.
love anand
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Post by stef on Jul 25, 2006 8:32:39 GMT
On this forum we like to show that you don't have to pay for Reiki to receive great service and support  I respect that there are many who charge money for Reiki, and I respect that many people prefer to pay for Reiki treatments and attunements. The talk from William Rand is an extract from a seminar about setting up a Reiki practice, so it is all centred on practitioners who charge money for Reiki, but what he didn't mention in his talk is that while there may be a few people who give Reiki for free to "make them appear more spiritual" or "to have power over the people they're giving Reiki to" there are many, many people who give Reiki free through love and compassion We are all entitled to our own views, but is it right to spread fear by not telling the whole story love stef |
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Post by Monica on Jul 25, 2006 15:22:40 GMT
As I read and as I think, Usui didn't ask for money when he gave Reiki to the others. Saving that, in that time and that place, you would have to prove that you have the abilities and that you have reached a level when you can receive the next attunement in the Reiki system. Here, the system was brought differently. We first get the attunement and then we start practicing. I guess, to appreciate what gift you are just about to receive (I think...), the exchange of money appeared; started from 10,000$ for the Master level. You paid such a high price, so it's understandable that, at least, you will want your money back. But from this point to say what Rand said above... it's a very long way. Is it a threat for his business, the fact that more and more people give Reiki for free? As Anand said, everyone is free to charge for what he, actually, channels. Or to give it for free. But Rand is not entitled to sling mud at those that, from their hearts, share Reiki for free. This is my opinion. As for his words... I personally have nothing to prove. If people will get scared (  ;D  and if they want to pay for a treatment or for the attunements, that's alright. They will find out, sooner or later, where is the truth. "....Or you do treatments for free because you feel inadequate spiritually" ;D ;D ;D sure..... With love, Monica |
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Post by h elmer | espeance on Jul 25, 2006 17:37:44 GMT
i read that usui later did prefer to charge for treatment because he felt that it would benefit the healing when people felt like they had to make an investment
who knows what usui did?
usui this usui that!
smiles
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Post by Monica on Jul 25, 2006 17:40:13 GMT
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Post by enivid on Jul 26, 2006 15:40:14 GMT
Hello, I think that we as individuals are far too complex to be put into these small categories with labels on. I feel that this is such a narrow take on things and especially from the source it came from. Along with every other member of this forum, I was born to help others and I love to be able to help somebody in a large or small way, knowing that I have been of service and made a difference to somebodys life is my reward. I've never charged for any energy work, but I certainly don't feel inadequate spiritually, nor do I judge those that do, or condemn them in any way. I'm going to be controversial here, but may I suggest that those who do charge can perhaps feel a tad uncomfortable around those that don't, maybe their conscience pricks them? Who knows? I could be wrong? Maybe I'm being judgemental, but then I'm a complex being who dislikes being put into a box with a label on. ;D  LOL With tongue firmly in cheek, Danny |
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Post by efishy on Jul 27, 2006 18:43:02 GMT
I know I have shared my outlook on this, so here it goes again. I'm with you Steph. It was taught and given to me for free.. so I will inturn do the same thing. People are funny. Some feel that unless they pay for it, its not worth it.. ... (I am not one of them) But those people will be attracted to people who charge for it, and the rest of us will attract the rest of them..I wouldn't judge someone who does, and I wouldn't judge someone who doesn't charge.....but either way, we are here to empower each other, lean on each other when its needed.. and thats one of the things I love about Reiki. Hey Danny, I don't like boxs either.. I'm with you...I'm apt to rip the box up any how....Ellie
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Post by anand on Jul 31, 2006 8:25:37 GMT
.....but either way, we are here to empower each other, lean on each other when its needed.. and thats one of the things I love about Reiki. Me too. ;D ;D  love anand |
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Post by efishy on Jul 31, 2006 21:50:07 GMT
Well, I give treatments and attunements for free, because I can, and I want to. However, if, the guy next to me charges, he can, cause he can as well. ...I guess the old saying " if everyone played the piano, there would be no one to listen" kind of seams appropriate here. Intent is everything. We draw the different kinds of people for different reasons to us. The hospital where I work at payed for my instruction.. as a certified nures aid, all of it...but if you think I would work in the Reiki Area of the hospital, for the hospital, for nothing... umm think again. But, I have volunteered after work to work there to help out, because I wanted to, not because I felt I owed them something. I became a CNA threw the hospital that I work at.. they payed the $500 for that class. I could of gone anywhere else to work.. which I have, and did, but sense have returned. Anyway, to each their own... no judgments.. just love and healing, and I am thankful there are so many of us spreading it whether we charge for Reiki or not... Namaste ... Ellie |
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Post by neelam on Aug 1, 2006 16:27:00 GMT
I think offering Reiki, or any service (good ones, of course), is a wonderful gift. It is accessible to all that way and carries way more value. I got attuned for free and I don't think my Master has any hole over me. In fact I respect him more and would like to be able to help others in a similar way.
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Post by rain on May 24, 2007 12:56:35 GMT
Reiki is one of the from earth, so i think we should try to help other without money. But i also respect the for the people who was charge money for Reiki. But i hope we can just help all the people as well as good.
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Post by Lightwanderer on Jun 13, 2007 8:30:57 GMT
I'm kind of adaptive with the attunements and healing,
if the client expects me to get paid for it so OK, i recieve it gladly and thankfully,
if the client wants it for free - then I am happy that the person is happy
(actually I use the same method when fixing peoples computers ;D)
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and if they want to pay for a treatment or for the attunements, that's alright. They will find out, sooner or later, where is the truth.
LOL
