kenth
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Post by kenth on Jul 16, 2010 16:39:38 GMT
Hello, I would like to know what do you guys think of Reiki self attunements. I only read 2 of those so far, 1. 79.170.40.40/light-reiki.co.uk/selfatune.html2. Is from a book by judith conroy (?) titled radical reiki for radical life Edit: Link fixed
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Post by dawnsrays on Aug 3, 2010 11:29:13 GMT
I think self attunement is like tickling yourself or massaging yourself or talking to yourself. It can be done but it is not very satisfying. When you allow another to attune you then YOU can step out of the way and allow the energy in, without the help of another you can never full give in to the experience.
just my two cents
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Post by Silver Kitsune on Aug 12, 2010 10:29:14 GMT
I think it all depends on how open you are to things. Self attunements can and do work. My first Reiki attunement was a self attunement. Then again, I came in with previous experience in the magickal arts, so drawing down energies, visualization, and putting the mind in the proper state were not foreign concepts. I do believe it's something that anyone can do with the right intent and desire.
That said, having someone there to aid you, guide you, and welcome you into Reiki energy work does feel far more fulfilling. For some people, there will be that self-doubt that holds them back from their own potential if they don't have someone there to give them the support. Beyond this, there can be no substitute for true experience. A book cannot explain everything, and so having a Reiki Master under whom you may study, I agree that you'll probably get and give much more than you'll have under self-instruction and self-attunement.
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Post by Lightwanderer on Aug 26, 2010 9:30:46 GMT
The expression "self attuning" is misleading. You do not self attune yourself, your higher self or a reiki angel does that for you. just as master Usui got the first attunement.
Seing the matter in that perspective gives a totally different view. As everything else regarding magics and reiki, it works - and it works really good... if you believe in it and if you believe in yourself and your abilities.
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Post by giyandeva on Nov 18, 2010 11:33:55 GMT
Traditionally only reiki teacher can attune somebody. And only reiki teacher able to attune someone to become reiki teacher. This is the living reiki lineage. Its not only tradition but living energy connection to the founder Mikao Usui.
When somebody do "self attuning" I think its not reiki iniation. He/she connect something other energy which can work.... but this is not reiki method.
This is my opinion.
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Post by hoverround on Jan 10, 2011 1:56:34 GMT
From what I can gather, self-attunement is basically placing yourself in a Necropolis (FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING, ok?). Necromancy (pronounced /ˈnɛkrɵmænsi/; Greek νεκρομαντεία nekromanteia, via Latin necromantia) is a form of magic in which the practitioner seeks to summon the spirit of a deceased person, either as an apparition or ghost, or to raise them bodily, for the purpose of divination. In Renaissance magic, necromancy (or nigromancy, by popular association with niger "black") was classified as a forbidden art, and Johannes Hartlieb (1456) lists demonology in general under the heading. The word necromancy derives from the Greek νεκρός (nekrós), "dead body", and μαντεία (manteía), "prophecy, divination". The compound νεκρομαντεία itself is post-classical, first used by Origen in the 3rd century. The classical Greek term is nekyia (ἡ νέκυια), in Hellenistic Greek also νεκυιομαντεία, rendered in Latin as necyomantia and in 17th century English as necyomancy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy^ From wikipedia All the cool kids were doin' it. There ya go. Take from that what you will. There is nothing gross about it.. That's exactly what my mindset was going into it and it worked. So I don't knock it.
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Post by Lightwanderer on Jan 10, 2011 10:08:42 GMT
eh uh.. an angel is not really a dead human beings soul...
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Post by hoverround on Jan 10, 2011 15:25:38 GMT
Earlier civilizations would have thought of their spirituality differently. First Nations People in North America would interchange the word 'necromancy' with 'shamanism'; calling upon ancestors. However, 'Necromancy' the way ancient greeks described methods of divination and 'shamanism' of native americans is.. the same thing. Pretty much. Getting caught up with names of things, or mythology.. you have to see beyond that to what their intent was. I don't believe in angels, but together you and I have the same intent * Shamanism is an anthropological term referencing a range of beliefs and practices regarding communication with the spiritual world.[2] A practitioner of shamanism is known as a shaman (pronounced /ˈʃɑːmən/ "SHAH-men"or /ˈʃeɪmən/ "SHAY-men").[3] Shamanism encompasses the belief that shamans are intermediaries or messengers between the human world and the spirit worlds. Shamans are said to treat ailments/illness by mending the soul. Alleviating traumas affecting the soul/spirit restores the physical body of the individual to balance and wholeness. The shaman also enters supernatural realms or dimensions to obtain solutions to problems afflicting the community. Shamans may visit other worlds/dimensions to bring guidance to misguided souls and to ameliorate illnesses of the human soul caused by foreign elements. The shaman operates primarily within the spiritual world, which in turn affects the human world. The restoration of balance results in the elimination of the ailment. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShamanismCheck out the wikipedia entry on shamanism * I'll tell you a little story. I like black metal - a lot - and a lot of the musicians are occultists/Satanists in some form. One of the bands I like I have a hoodie from and.. I was on the bus when a native man read my shirt outloud "The Wisdom Of The Dead" with a huge grin on his face. Then he got into a huge conversation with me. He was covered in badges and other stuffs like "Native Pride" etc.. He empathized with what was on the sweater immensely and seemed really impressed with it. No joke. And honestly.. the writing wasn't that easy to read.
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Post by Lightwanderer on Jan 11, 2011 7:47:16 GMT
I really don't see what you want to accomplish with your posting since it's totally offtopic. Mixing Reiki and dark arts doesn't really work.
If you are trying to find a bridge between them, well... good luck.
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Post by hoverround on Jan 11, 2011 18:57:47 GMT
I really don't see what you want to accomplish with your posting since it's totally offtopic. Mixing Reiki and dark arts doesn't really work. If you are trying to find a bridge between them, well... good luck. So you think the native americans and ancient greeks practice dark arts? You took my mention of Satanism and really ran with it Satanic Bible is published through Avon books, a subsidiary of Harper Collins. It's been in print for over 40yrs. LaVey didn't believe in black magic. He believed in magic. And he didn't separate pulling a bunny out of a hat through stage magic with greater/ritual magic. You'd have to read him to understand where he is going with this logic. LaVey is occult-lite. I said this in another thread.. a lot of what LaVey was writing about, the majority body of his work, is about his lion, keyboards, the 40s, joy-buzzers, not liking the invention of stereo, amusement parks, etc... You sound like you've never read him and... I wont recommend him to you but I just wanted to say that he is the poster-guy for not judging a book by its cover.
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Post by Lightwanderer on Jan 12, 2011 9:06:02 GMT
I won't get into a discussion about satanism and dark arts in a site about reiki. The topic of this discussion is self attunements, not satanism, not paganism, not shamanish, not Anton LaVey, not the satanic bible, not dark art, not necromancy. You are totally offtopic and I refuse to go on discussing with you.
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Post by hoverround on Jan 12, 2011 20:34:52 GMT
I won't get into a discussion about satanism and dark arts in a site about reiki. The topic of this discussion is self attunements, not satanism, not paganism, not shamanish, not Anton LaVey, not the satanic bible, not dark art, not necromancy. You are totally offtopic and I refuse to go on discussing with you. Read "On The Choice Of Human Sacrifice" by Anton LaVey in his Satanic Bible. His idea of a ritual chamber is a place for emotional decompression and venting. I said this before a lot of Satanists over the many years that the church of satan has existed have glossed over the ritual aspects of that religion/philosophy mainly because lavey didnt describe it very well. but in that chapter i mentioned above he is describing reiki attunement. seriously. read it yourself. he gets into it towards the bottom of the very first page. but he does a bad job at it because he spends too much time in that part of the book defending himself and making a case for what ritual sacrifice is not. btw the book is ubiquitous.. go to any large chain bookstore and they will have them probably in stock. at least the Satanic Bible. it's really quite a classic book. when i bought it like 11yrs ago i went to Chapters/Indigo with $10 or whatever looked around the place found it bought it right there went home and read it. easy as can be. not somehting hard to find at all. every bookstore has a copy of this.. my point is next time youre in a bookstore if anyones interested you can pick it up and flip through it it's not a hard book to track down I refuse to believe reiki came into existence in the past 100yrs. That doesnt make sense. it is impossible. unless someone came here from outer space. i think the truth is that reiki is a lot of different things of different names, however it happened that asian culture in particular kept things more hidden. white people do not have necromancy or divination anymore. its a huge irony that people start getting into reiki who are otherwise christian.. the catholic church has spoken against it, and it is considered necromancy. sorry. we've had things like tarot decks become more available only recently like after the 70s into the 80s. any heathenism or paganism was outlawed by the church. things like reiki are considered necromancy and divination of some sort. there are passages in the bible relating to this even.
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Post by Monica on Jan 13, 2011 7:23:21 GMT
Dear hoverround,
First of all, thank you for your contribution until now. I would like to remind you, though, that this is a Reiki forum, the energy system that Mikao Usui started it, shared it further and we chose to practice. People come here to learn about this system and to share experiences from practicing it. Please stick to the subject of this forum in all the threads about Reiki. For subjects not related to Reiki you can find a special board in the forum. Thank you very much in advance. Enjoy your staying!
With love, Monica
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